Russia is the Continuation of Roman Empire

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12-11-2016, 08:35 AM

snj90 Location: South Jersey 14,502 posts, read 8,725,953 times Reputation: 5238

Quote: Originally Posted by Grandstander All this puts me to mind of a scene from "The Sopranos" where Tony and his gang are putting the squeeze on some Hasidic Jewish hotel operators. The son in law of the owner starts talking about Masada and how all the Jews killed themselves rather than submit to Rome. Of the mighty Romans he asks..."Where are they now?" Tony replies... "You're looking at em, a**-hole." LOL. Jewry is actually another legacy of Rome. Genetic evidence suggests that Ashkenazi Jews are basically the descendants of the Levantine Jews who migrated to Italy, and female Italian converts to Judaism.

12-11-2016, 09:09 AM

snj90 Location: South Jersey 14,502 posts, read 8,725,953 times Reputation: 5238

Quote: Originally Posted by king's highway Ivan III married Sophia Paleologue. Sophia was the niece of Constantine XI, the last Byzantium [Second Rome] emperor. From Princess Sophia, Holy Russia inherited the Byzantium imperial symbols, the double-headed eagle and ivory throne. Russia became the Third Rome. . The muscovite claim to Roman inheritance is comparable to the British or American claim. The post-Anglo-Saxon link of Britain to Rome's legacy can be traced to the Norman conquest. Additionally, the American Founders consciously imitated the Roman Republic in devising the American republican political system. Like I said, there is no single successor to Rome; in a sense, there are many.

12-11-2016, 03:46 PM

ukrkoz 17,482 posts, read 23,636,797 times Reputation: 19246

There was no Byzantine. There was Romea and they called themselves Romei. Byzantine as name for that country appeared in 16th century.

12-12-2016, 01:32 AM

cachibatches 4,489 posts, read 3,615,460 times Reputation: 8678

Quote: Originally Posted by ukrkoz There was no Byzantine. There was Romea and they called themselves Romei. Byzantine as name for that country appeared in 16th century. This is the answer. There is no such thing as the "Byzantine Empire" at all. It is a modern contrivance from self-important windbags. The "Byzantine Empire" was the literal eastern survival of the Roman Empire. They called themselves Romans. They thought of themselves as Romans. Anyone who doesn't understand that needs to read Precopius or Ana Comnena. As for the "Holy Roman Empire," it was famously neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an empire. It was more of a confederacy of largely German states.

12-14-2016, 02:52 AM

easthome Location: SE UK 13,074 posts, read 10,014,105 times Reputation: 8653

Quote: Originally Posted by king's highway Only the American empire is now allowed to wage constant global war. . America doesn't have an 'Empire', its just a big country! Empires are a collection of different nations governed from a central power - the USA doesn't govern anywhere else other than the USA.

12-22-2016, 09:07 PM

SWFL_Native 8,310 posts, read 5,424,359 times Reputation: 13729

Imo the true Roman Empire died with the invasion of Christianity. You can call it the Holy Roman Empire or the Byzantine empire or the Eastern Roman Empire but it all failed to be truly Roman. It's true identity had been lost.

12-28-2016, 05:12 PM

grega94 Location: Seattle WA, USA 5,273 posts, read 3,884,010 times Reputation: 4069

Quote: Originally Posted by easthome America doesn't have an 'Empire', its just a big country! Empires are a collection of different nations governed from a central power - the USA doesn't govern anywhere else other than the USA. That's not exactly true, Even if you were to look only at the 49 states on North America, it's still a very large area home to a plethora of native cultures. There are 326 Indian reservations that are separate from US states and act for the most part as independent nations. Technically this is what the true Contiguous US map looks like http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwik...servations.gif Further more there is also Hawaii which is not in North America, but is actually in Oceana and used to be it's own kingdom until the US conquered it. Then there are also the US Territories the largest one being Puerto Rico, and in the past the Philippines. Here is the actual map of the United States showing all land under the control of Washington D.C http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/fishes/ki...ges/eez_us.jpg The only thing that stops the US from being called an "Empire" is that it's not ruled by a supreme authoritative ruler often times called an Emperor. However if you take the definition given by Wiki it states "An empire is defined as "an aggregate of nations or people ruled over by an emperor or other powerful sovereign or government, usually a territory of greater extent than a kingdom" So as long as you have multiple nations (which the US has) ruled by one government (which the US has) over a large territory of land (which the US has) then it is an empire. So technically the US is an empire, the Americans don't want to be described as such since we seceded from the British empire and that this secession was pointless since we became exactly what we tried to a avoid, an empire.

12-29-2016, 10:08 PM

danielj72 Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon 8,983 posts, read 9,695,536 times Reputation: 14978

I agree with posters who suggest the Catholic Church is the only current survivor with links to he Roman Empire. It really is part of the Roman Empire, a religious institution that was literally part of the empire that has survived and even thrived today. The Byzantine empire was the suvivor when it comes to political power, but that has been gone since the 15th century. The roman church is still very much alive.

12-29-2016, 11:08 PM

grega94 Location: Seattle WA, USA 5,273 posts, read 3,884,010 times Reputation: 4069

Quote: Originally Posted by danielj72 I agree with posters who suggest the Catholic Church is the only current survivor with links to he Roman Empire. It really is part of the Roman Empire, a religious institution that was literally part of the empire that has survived and even thrived today. The Byzantine empire was the suvivor when it comes to political power, but that has been gone since the 15th century. The roman church is still very much alive. What about the Greek/Eastern Orthodox Church? It is the original church, the Catholic Church left the Orthodox Church.

12-30-2016, 12:30 PM

Ariete Location: Finland 24,257 posts, read 22,899,151 times Reputation: 11103

Quote: Originally Posted by grega94 What about the Greek/Eastern Orthodox Church? It is the original church, the Catholic Church left the Orthodox Church. Nooooo. The "original" Chalcedonian Church died with the schism. The Catholic and Orthodox churches were both born in 1054.

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